The Missing Piece in Midlife Wellness: Our Bodies, Our Energy, and Our Aliveness

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Daniela, thank you so much for being here today. So, I appreciate your presence. It's awesome to be with you. My heart is like I got all the feels. And the first question I'll begin with is a question I ask everyone at the beginning. And from there we just kind of let things emerge as they emerge. What How would you describe the work that you do? And what is of your journey that led you here would you like to share with us today? Okay, so what I love the ways in which I feel really fulfilled and being useful to others in the world is to help people to feel the rapture of their aliveness. I there was a like an appendix. I think it was in the book Heart Yoga where Andrew Harvey said to the Dalai Lama, 'What is the purpose of life?' And His Holiness said without missing a beat. He said, 'And it's not a very Tibetan Buddhist response, which is just so, you know, great teachers just tune into the questioner. And he said, 'We're here to embody the transcendent.' And right? And like that's the most like until I heard Joseph Campbell describe, 'We're not here to seek happiness. We're here to feel the rapture of being alive.' Like both of those have been sort of my guiding light of okay. And then I looked at well, what is it then if we're here to feel if we're here to embody, right? And when we embody the transcendent, it's through direct experience only. Concepts don't get us there.

And it's through sense felt sensations in the body is a huge part of embodying the transcendent. And so with that on one hand and we're here to feel the rapture of being alive. I then started to look at and this find this found me when I was really young, the Buddha's four noble truths. And the first truth is basically there's lots of suffering here in this experience, this human experience. And the source of suffering is here. And the way out is here. And then there's a path of eight ways of living that, you know, help us to be free of suffering. So, I wanted to then explore for myself, first and foremost, well, what is it that where do I feel myself effortlessly embodying the transcendent, whatever that is for me, right? and what is it that inhibits my ability to feel the rapture of my aliveness? And those wherever it's inhibited or limited is where I was suffering. Mhm. So, I really at a very early age set on the on this very personal quest. I wanted to understand I wanted to feel free of unnecessary suffering.

And so my own personal journey has been that. and my professional journey is really supporting others in and again, Rumi said this so beautifully that and I'll paraphrase him. He said, 'We're not here to Like we basically don't need to learn more about love. We simply want to look at the barriers within ourselves.' That's the key of that. It's the barriers within ourselves that prevent us from feeling love scene by scene in our lives. Now, we can feel love and there be pain. We can feel love and be with the suffering in the world, right? It doesn't mean live in a bubble of your own. Like I'm okay in my bubble. We can hold both and So that's my great joy is to help others feel the rapture of their aliveness. And you know, when you and I first met much of my education and work was about awareness and communication and the awareness keys and conscious living practices.

And how And having been a spiritual educator for many years now and as a woman in midlife I'm 53. I started to see first through my own experience of suffering what a ride midlife is for women. And most of my students even when I was in my 20s and my 30s were always women in midlife. And I started to notice how very few spiritual circles are also including how do we care for the physical body as an essential component of our ability to experience ourselves as the spiritual beings we are having a human experience at Earth School and to sustain that experience to sustain that awareness. And through my own journey of physical challenges with my physical body I really got to see oh here's what's going on in the physical body for a lot of women in midlife that their doctors aren't telling them about. They're not having these conversations. They don't have great support. They don't understand what the changes are going on in their bodies and how that will really contribute to the sense of spiritual disconnection.

So where I've really landed is both and helping people to on their spiritual journey and simultaneously attending very thoroughly to the balance of the physical body. Beyond yoga, beyond Qigong, I'm talking knowing being able to rattle off what are your vitamin D levels, what are your B12 levels, what are what do how is your ferritin? knowing where you are in your cycle of perimenopause versus you know into menopause, understanding how your hormones work and how they affect how low ferritin and low progesterone will create sensations of anxiousness depression, moodiness and a lot of women are then put on SSRIs when what they actually need is some metabolic support. So I really love teaching right now the both and because when we're off in the physical body metabolic dysfunction we are going to be off in the spiritual. They go hand in hand. Wow. And is that more a recent kind of emergence for you in your work or has that been there all along, that interest in the both? Well, yeah, interesting.

So my master's was in health education. So I have always Rena I want to say I think you met Rena. she'd be a fabulous guest. She's an incredible astrologer who's very practical and relatable. And she describes something in my chart how it's the science the I think it's like the science the scientist and the mystic are engaged in a game of chess or something like that. And so the mystic and the scientist are always like doing this dance together. So yeah, so my master's was in health education. I always cared about health. My son's dad had cancer when our baby was 4 months old and we were in our early 30s and we turned to Gerson therapy, which is a form of it's a very deep dive in detoxification and using food to cleanse the body and to eradicates cancer. So, yeah, I've always cared very much about health and the physical layer. So, it's come a bit full circle. and I don't know that it would have had I not gone through my own journey and challenge. Like let's up like I said, I'm 53. So, rewind back in about like 7 years ago.

What can happen in midlife is it's just this very slow it's such a slow shift that if you're busy, which we all were in, you know, pandemic and momming and teaching and educating, you can just I chalked up the changes I was experiencing as everyone in the world is tired. You know, buck up. Don't be a baby. That was my inner championing for myself. And I probably would have just kept going that way until I started noticing when I would take a shower and wash my hair, there was a lot more hair in the drain than usual. And so, like after a 1 month, 2 month, 3 months of like tons of shedding, like something's not right. So, yeah. So, I had to go on my own journey of discovering what was off in my physical layer. And I really set out on a quest to restore my energy such that I could check the box and say my energy feels great. Like I live caffeine-free. I my energy is never honest-to-goodness never felt better. I've never felt more relaxed inside my system as I do. I had an I was an undiagnosed autoimmune and Hashimoto thyroiditis.

So, hypothyroidism. So, I had a thy- my thyroid was like non-functioning. I had all kinds of things going on that I had I had no clue. And so, I had to completely turn that ship around. And it and it took about 2 years to do so. With the help of really great functional medicine practitioners. And as you know, you and I are both always eternal students. I'm like, well, if I'm going to, you know, bring myself into back into the restoration of Great Energy, I'm going to get certified in a whole bunch of these things, too, so that I can really then help other women through their own midlife journey. Because sadly, it's not our gynecologists that are that are talking about these things that are extremely knowledgeable. It's not our primary care physicians because when they do our labs, they're looking at our lab data through normal ranges, but normal ranges are based on a sick population. So, for the world of functional medicine works in the realm of optional optimal ranges, which are very different than your primary care's ranges. So, it like I said, it took a couple of years for me to come back into myself, and I've never felt better.

Wow. Yeah. I don't Yeah. I And I And again, I had no idea what was going on. I literally had to figure it out myself and hire the right help. and go through, you know, practitioner after practitioner until I really found people that would were listening to me and ordering the right test and interpreting the data through proper ranges. So, Daniela, how did that then impact So, you talk about the combination, right, of the spiritual self and the physical self. So, how then tell me more. Like, how did that impact your sense of your spiritual self? I think the ultimate spiritual state is this going to sound nuts? is to be fully relaxed. Mhm. And I could see in hindsight how many again students, many of our students were women in midlife, constantly having to do nervous system practices, constantly having to do all these practices, which in hindsight I could see were like, these are a lot of women treading water. Mhm. Yes, do the I was doing them myself. And but my foundational baseline wasn't this state of feeling I want I just I almost want to say relaxed down to the mitochondria in my cells. Relaxed down to my endoprasmic endoplasmic reticulum.

Relax such that I feel in a relaxed state, you're very alert, you're clear, you're present, but there's an ease internally. You know, one of the things that I love about the enneagram is that the nine personality types of enneagram are described sometimes as the nine journeys of the soul from ego to soul or from ego to essence, the nine journeys to the divine. And one description of enneagram is the nine ways we carry tension and the nine journeys to relax. So, we cannot experience and sustain playing the character we're playing in the curriculum of our lives exactly as our life appears knowing what we are truly. You don't bring it to bring the your the state that we are outside of the character we're playing is you could say is pure awareness of being. And that is a vast content at ease state. Our true nature is at ease.

And you cannot play the character we're playing the roles and identities in a relaxed way if you're experiencing metabolic dysfunction. Your system cannot relax. And so when our system is off, our physical system is off when we're relaxed, it's one of my teachers Ram would always say it's like a relaxed system can embody the transcendent. It can divinity itself can settle comfortably inside of you. So when I look around at our at our culture we're one of the most unhealthy cultures physically and the most and very malnourished. Because when things are off on your on the level of cellular metabolic functioning it sets a cascade of issues in motion in the body and one of which tends to be low stomach acid. And when we have low stomach acid, we're not absorbing nutrients from our food that we're eating. So we're overeating and we're and we're malnourished. And so over time that creates inflammation in the body which affects the brain, affects how you think, it affects and now all of a sudden your body's struggling cuz it doesn't have the nourishment it needs and you feel this tension inside. And we just get so used to it we don't even recognize it for what it is.

So, I meet very few authentically relaxed people. And it's different like a Vata imbalance. It's deeper. so yeah, I think I we just went to Paris and back. I No, I love that. That's so interesting. Yeah. Okay, so how So, in your work then, Daniela, like right now, are you working with both? And like how does that how does that show up for you? Yeah. Yeah, so Christopher and I have Great Energy. We run a Qigong immersion. So, Qigong is think of it as a very beautiful standing practice for anyone that has like I think I know what Qigong is, but maybe not. It's a it's a standing practice and it has very flowing, beautiful, and potent movements. It's like a if you combine a moving meditation with strength building in a very accessible way. It's not So, it's it has some similarities to yoga and some great differences. In Qigong, for example, most everything is done standing. You can also do it seated, like in a chair. There's chair Qigong. so we have a Qigong program that many people take just for their own personal immersion and then some opt to certify to share it. we have a lot of yoga teachers that then add on add Qigong into their classes.

So yes, I'm teaching we're teaching there in that regard. And then I also work with one-on-one and small groups and teach courses all about the science and soul of women's midlife health. because midlife is this gorgeous opportunity and if you're out of balance, it's brutal. And out of balance meaning metabolic dysfunction, you're lacking it you're missing some new some vital nutrients. So, whatever is out of balance in your 30s and 40s is going to rear its head as soon as perimenopause starts. And that happens anywhere from age 35 up to, you know, late 40s for women. So, whatever imbalances exist, perimenopause exacerbates it enormously. Mhm. And then you're also in probably navigating, too, all of the identity like women and the thing. You don't feel yourself, right? And so, it's a it's a depressed state. And there's a lot of transition. oftentimes children are leaving the nest. what's going on in my marriage? Libido drops often for women. body composition changes. So, women know are you're start You're not You're not exercising less or eating differently, and all of a sudden easily there's 30 new pounds on you that you don't know where it came from. You don't feel at home in your body. You feel awkward in your body.

There's a term called gray divorce, which is a really popular thing because women who are These women are who whose hormones are out of balance, metabolic dysfunction. You're just like, 'Eh, relationship shmationship.' Like, 'Meh.' And let me tell you everything that's going on in your in the way you perceive and relate to yourself, others, and the world is biochemical. Mhm. Libido is chemical. So, we have There are marriages that are falling apart that don't that I want to say don't have to. And it's and it's and it's brutal. It's brutal for women. So, I love helping people to get their systems in order so they can reconnect with like it's like that light goes back on. Now let me reassess. Let me experience my life. Let me [sighs] It's like it's like you're drowning and you finally come up for a big gulp of air like, oh my gosh, I need to feel what it feels like to take a deep breath again. And now let me just take a look at my life because I feel alive again. Now what? Now who am I in my well-being? Because for many women in midlife, their journey is not one of who am I in my well-being. That's one of who am I in my weight gain, my hair loss, my fatigue, my overwhelm, my anxiety, and my bloat.

Yeah. That is the and low libido. That is the common experience for women. And so forget about your spiritual life at that point. You don't You don't really like even just low testosterone for women. You know, we have more testosterone than estrogen, but we don't think of testosterone as a women's hormone. just low testosterone will have you just feel completely flat about everything in your life. Just that alone. That's not even Now we're not even looking at ferritin, B12, and D3, and all these other basic things. Because those will have you feel flat, too. So this opportunity of midlife is this glorious transition of I've done it. I've raised the kids. I mean I still am connected to them. And now who do we get to be in partnership? How do I What matters to me in this last I like to I think of life as we have three arcade tokens. You know, you go to Chuck E. Cheese and you get your three arcade tokens and makes the game play. Well, by the time you get to midlife, you've used two of them. So I've got this one precious Chuck E. Cheese token. And you can be damn sure that I want to feel I want the ability, the capacity to embody the transcendent, to feel the rapture of my aliveness, and to listen for how am I called to be useful. Well, I do believe that we are here to enjoy our lives and to be useful. And when we're whatever barriers are in our life, if we're not able to enjoy it, then we need to ask for help.

And when we do feel strong and we are in we have the capacity, the next logical progression from I'm I feel good, I'm enjoying, how can I be useful? How can I help somebody else that that is not experiencing that. That be- that becomes a soul duty. which I feel is a real privilege. so it's not like you're not going to disappear in a bubble of life is only about my enjoyment. It's about our care of self so that we can listen for how does life wish to be useful through us? And to be of benefit to others. Mhm. Because that is enjoyment. That's enjoyment. It's It feels not fair. Like I had to climb my way out of feeling all the things I described that can be like all thumbs down in midlife if you don't if you're not being escorted by a good sherpa up front. And I want the same for my other sisters in between 40 and 60. Like let's get you back online. So you have a fair shot at assessing your life, you know, from clear lens. Not from those fatigued bloaty balding lens.

Yes. One of the things that's interesting to me, Daniela, is when I was in when you were my teacher, I one of the lessons that you taught at the time that really stayed with me and actually I've carried it over. I've taught it out is the value of [sighs] in like remembering that you're your innocence. And what's coming up for me as I hear you is that so often when we're anxious, when we're tired, when we're bloating, when we're gaining weight, there is a an assumption that somehow we're not innocent. Like there's something wrong that we are responsible for. And so I'm really appreciating also what you're saying in the lens of innocence. That this is something that you may not even know. Yeah. Uh-huh. And you Well, I think our whole life is a life of innocence, especially our fuck-ups. There's an innocence now. As soon as we become aware, it's our duty, it's our responsibility to be accountable for the impact of our fuck-ups, to do what's right, to just do what's right. And there is an innocence. There's an innocence to our whole life. I cannot find any example of even the worst stuff happening on Earth. The Buddhists called it ignorance.

And I get that. I believe that. And yet it feels one level deeper as innocence. There's a I don't know what I don't know. There's an innocence to that. It There just is. It'd be like no different than handing a Harry Potter book to a two-year-old saying, 'Read out loud to me. Read me a story.' And read the words on the page, right? And if they can't do it, they don't know what they don't know. That's innocence. Right. people taking advantage of someone else. They That doesn't happen typically because somebody is a cruel, terrible person. That comes from a blindness within. That comes from our some samskaras. That comes from that which we are unconscious of in ourself. And we're lucky if we have people around us that see us screwing up. That can say, 'Hey, like hold up. Like this isn't This isn't right or this isn't you or what's going on here?' That's why we need friendships. You know, the Buddhists always say that there are three jewels. And in And in traditional language, it's the Buddha, the Dharma, and the Sangha. And in contemporary language, I think of the Buddha as great, qualified, conscious teachers.

They're to the best of their capacity living what they teach. Then the Dharma is great quality education. And Sangha, which is as equal of importance to the other, is your spiritual friendships. We need spiritual friendships. We need people. We need to be in conversations with one another. It's like, 'Well, what do you think the purpose of life is? What do you think the purpose of friendship is? What do you think the purpose of partnership is?' Cuz I agree, it is not to be happy and comfortable in partnership, in relationship. It's to help one another to see what you can't see for yourself. I count on my true friends to help me see what's in my blind spots. And to help me through that. And vice versa. So, we need all three in our in our journey. We really do. Yes. I really appreciate that. Yes. And I what I also appreciate, too, about that, Daniela, is that it brings away like we can get mired and constricted and bogged down, I think, in the shame of I'm not doing it right enough, good enough. I'm supposed to be different than I am, right? And there's a there's a freedom there, I think. Like, no, it's okay.

Well, there's a forgiveness for I'm doing the best I can, and as soon as I know better, I do better. That was Maya Angelou's wisdom. As soon as you know better, do better. Right? And so, that the innocence is, well, we're doing the best we can. We're always doing the best we can. and thank goodness for our friendships. And thank goodness for those friends. You see, when we forget about the innocence, we become righteous and judgmental. And we can't be judged like His Holiness says that, you know, some people teach that the opposite of love is fear, but I don't think that's And that could that could feel resonant for some for someone, but I think truer than that, my experience is that the opposite of love is judgment. And as long as we think things aren't don't have a foundation of innocence, you can only be in judgment. Because you're thinking that person shouldn't have done that. They should have done better. Well, they didn't. That's how we know they couldn't. They didn't. I know it sounds too simple. And it is this simple. It doesn't mean it's this easy. Simple and easy are so very, very different.

Yes. Yeah. we can remember that that innocence, we soften inside ourselves from the judgment to see how can I be useful? Or if it's not You may not be up You may be like, you know what? Peace out, friend. Like, boundaries up. You're out, and that's okay, too. That's okay, too. It doesn't oblige us to stay in somebody's life to like help them through their stuff. We get to choose. so, and yet we can still say, I choose this relationship no longer and remember the innocence. Yes. Yes. it's so and I appreciate you bringing up forgiveness because I think you're right. Like a lot of times there's a even a judgment on forgiveness. I should forgive or somehow I'm okay if I don't. But if there's a coming back to my innocence, your innocence, right? Like and it doesn't mean I have to be in connection with you. It doesn't mean I have to be of service to you actively, right? Like I can't see you. be angry and still remember innocence. It doesn't cancel them out. It doesn't deny the realness of anger or rage or upset or frustration. It doesn't It doesn't mean we're just always supposed to be, oh, well, they're innocent, so it's okay and I stay peaceful.

No, it doesn't mean that. But it's an it's an inner state. We're cultivating that inner state that is that is truthful. And upon that foundation of remembering the innocence of everyone, yourself included and others, I believe that wisdom and compassion Imagine if we are a three-centered being with their head center as the source of wisdom, the heart center the source of compassion, and right at our belly button, the core, our body center of power and action. So we are these three-centered being of wisdom and love and power. And we want that that's part of our life journey is to how congruent can I be in these three centers as wisdom, love, and power and to make conscious choices from there. And we are here in the realm of action. We are here to be in action and to and to operate in this realm and operate in our relationship with ourselves, in our relations with others, and our relationship with the world. That is a full-time job. And if we're marching around judging that energy, we can still merge and from a place of clarity understanding the innocence and still show up in powerful action and still help those who are suffering and still help those who are underserved and still help those who are who are underprivileged.

It that that attitude of innocence does not mean well as Katie says doesn't mean we're going to sit around and just drool and be like life is really tough. Yeah, we are here to be a light even in action in a powerful action. And Yeah, so I'm curious. This is just coming up right now as I hear you. A lot of times what people will say is that that you know it feels like the world's on fire everything's so uncertain and so for somebody let's say a woman in midlife who's navigating the body shifting, right? And imbalances and trying to work with relaxing. How does all of this in your in your perspective and your wisdom, how does all of this work in an unsteady volatile world? I don't remember Atlantis. I don't remember Lemuria. I don't remember Utopia. I don't remember any of these times that allegedly were really great. What I do in my limited knowledge of history is see year after year after decade after century, there is I don't see a place where it was like, oh my gosh, this is smooth sailing.

Yeah. I don't. So tell me where it is because I don't see it. So it's like different struggles suffering just has a like one of those like machines those viewer machines like that that you do you remember those when you were kids? Yes, I do. The viewfinders like you chiching and it's now a new picture and it chiching. It's just okay, here this is what the world is on fire in 2026 looks like. And I guarantee the world is on fire in 1741 was brutal in different ways and probably horrific as well. so what I what I believe is our full-time responsibility is to live in our own co clear regulated field. So we can listen for how am I called to be of service the way life appears to me exactly as it's appearing. And so for a woman in midlife I would say before rushing in to figure out how am I called to be useful or you can do the two simultaneously is you need to have routine lab work done.

And you need somebody qualified to interpret it through optimal ranges. This is so important because what we're up to in our lives of enjoyment and being useful in the world and responding from a place of I'm present, I'm grounded, I'm clear and I'm not constantly dysregulated and then having to regulate and dysregulated and having to regulate and anxious and depressed and scared and terrified. We have to get our bodies well so we can sustain the rigor of enjoying and being useful in the world. You can't sustain that. You burn That's what burnout is. That's what burnout is. Burnout is a term that actually describes our cortisol levels are high because we're in constant states of stress. And after a while elevated cortisol flatlines. So this is called adrenal fatigue. So burnout is a very real thing. And when you're burnt out it's a road to recovery and a lot of people are like, well, I don't have road to recovery time because I still have three teenagers at home, a kid in college, the brakes just died on the car, and our savings are like you we're surviving. We're very, very busy surviving. So you take all of that and then add in the world is on fire in this flavor.

And that's suffering. That is suffering. So the greatest thing we can do for ourselves is get the physical dealt with. Because then the nervous system can regulate. Then our adrenals can heal. Then our inflammation can reduce. Then we can regulate our nervous system and it actually works and stays regulated. Then we're not moody, anxious, depressed, anxious, depressed. Then we're sleeping at night well. Then we're eating real food, not Frankenfood. Now I can attend to in a steady consistent way my children and what all that goes on in their teenage lives and be present for them without advising or freaking out. I can be I can make sure that what matters to my heart I care about people having food. We have a food bank like 2 miles from here. So I care that I'm bringing food to the food bank. I can show up in the ways that I care in life, what matters to my heart. some people care you care about what you care about and let that find you. But we have to I know it's like we've heard this a million times on airplanes take the oxygen first before helping others.

But we have to do it. We have to do it. Nobody's going to take care of your body for you. And unfortunately, it take for many people it takes a health scare to wake you up. And I love working with women in midlife before that happens because it's coming. If you're if you're eating processed foods, you're not really taking exercising, you're stressed, you even just too much sugar is going to set and impacts the insulin and the blah and there's all dial the diabetes and the all the things. I mean just look around. You don't have to be a doctor to like You don't have to have gone to med school to look around walk around our culture and you can just see the health challenges and struggles. So that's what I say to someone who says how do I deal with the world on fire? Is you get yourself strong. Get yourself strong and well so you have that stamina to show up. Cuz when we don't have the stamina, we have to turn to caffeine and sugar and addictions to keep us going. Yes.

Oh, I think that's so true and so important to remember. And I'm wondering, Daniela, is there anything we haven't touched on that feels just important to say or to touch on today? We have 60 to 80,000 thoughts a day. So one of the questions I like is do you know where you are? Do you know where your mind is? The source of our suffering is anytime we have a stressful thought that we both think and believe true. So if you don't know where your mind is and what world it's conjuring moment by moment that is the source of our suffering. It's what we think and believe true. So one of the most important practices that we can develop for ourselves is adopting the seat of the observer of our mind. Noticing what do I think about? What do I think about repeatedly? What patterns do I notice in my thinking? What do I complain about? What does my mind do if this if somebody took seven days and just made that your primary practice, you would learn so much about yourself.

Because even though life appears outward to us your entire life is literally only happening inside you. It's an internal experience. Your whole life is an internal experience. I'm tapping my computer right now. Click, I hear sounds, I feel textures and sensations. That's all happening inside. Right? Because those signals are being sent like on my fingertips, my ears, my senses our whole experience of our life journey is an internal experience. Our life isn't happening out there, it's happening inside. So if there were any primary practice, I would say is twofold. Start to study yourself like your life depended on it. Number one. And number two, while you're in the process, if you take on, you know what? I'm going to get my labs. I'm going to have a functional I'm going to have functional medicine practitioner interpret it through optimal ranges, so I actually see what's going on with my health. I'm going to get a full thyroid panel, not just TSH. I'm going to get TPO to see if I have autoimmune, because one in seven women have thyroid issues and autoimmune currently.

So, that's a big bulk. In the meantime, when you're this the second practice I would say is when you are not talking anytime during your day, just casually put a hand on your belly. Like have your thumb kind of be right on your belly button. And when you inhale, notice does your hand move outward? And when you exhale, does your hand move back inward? Because most of us throughout the day are breathing only into our heads or our chests, which keeps us in a the sympathetic nervous system, which is a state of fight and flight. So, throughout the day as often as possible, if you're not talking, if you're listening to someone or you're watch you're on a phone call or you're on the computer, just have a hand on your belly, so you can get the breath down to your belly. That's called diaphragmatic breathing. That moves us into the parasympathetic nervous system, which is a state of rest and digest. So, minimally, that's how we can bring ourselves into a more relaxed state, even while even if some other things may be on a deeper level off in our system, that will help us in the moment to moment. It helps us to take those pauses, too. It helps us to remember to pause. Oh, and then the third thing, okay, so there's three practices, right?

Be aware of your what you're thinking and believing true. Diaphragmatic breathing. Oh, it just it just vanished. So, I guess it's just two. That's beautiful. Great. I love it. So, Daniela, if people were are interested, right? We have a lot of women listeners in their midlife time, what's the best way to find you? I would say if you simply go to our website, which is greatenergy.org. Greatenergy.org. And here's the here's the secret of Great Energy, why our business is called that. Because it is my firm conviction, I would plant the flag on this hill and lay down and take my final exhale believing this with all my every fiber of my being that the quality of your energy determines the quality of the experience of your life. So, that's it. Like, if your energy's not great, like, whatever box you would check to describe your energy, if you're like, 'Ah, how's your energy?' Like, consistently, mhm, mediocre. How are you How is your enjoyment of your life? It's also going to check mediocre. Nobody has like mediocre energy says, 'My out my experience of my life, great.' No. No, they correspond.

So, you could you can find me at greatenergy.org and somewhere on one of the tabs is work one-on-one with me or you can check out the Qigong program. it's a really great immersion and Qigong is also a necessary component to overall well-being because it is it helps us to really regulate our nervous system while doing all the other things. I mean, it's a moving meditation. A lot of people are scared of meditation. They think things like, 'I can't stop my thoughts. My mind is too busy. I have a monkey mind. Blah, blah, blah.' Those were terrible, terrible sound bites that came over from monastic ways of learning meditation that infiltrated into the West that don't suit the householder. So, meditation can be going out for a walk without listening to music or a podcast. Meditation can be, standing with your feet hip width apart and doing these very, very beautiful, simple, flowing movements. we have to have a way to manage stress of being alive. And you And you really can't bring yourself into physical balance without some physical practices.

So yeah. So, those So, So, if you just poke around the website, we have two free things, a month that are really sweet. what the second Sunday every month, and you can find this on our website. You'll get You can get the Zoom link. It's called Community Sunday, where Christopher leads an efficiency Qigong practice. So, if you're like, 'Oh, I'm kind of curious about Daniela has sort of sold me on Qigong. I'll check it out.' Come do a free Qigong practice. We teach an efficiency one in 15 minutes. Just notice how different you feel afterwards. and then I share a key, an awareness key for conscious living afterwards. And then every fourth Sunday is Sacred Sunday, online, which is which I guide you through a beautiful series of four very simple, practical meditations. one is a forgiveness practice, one is entering into the sacred heart space. It's a It's a journey that you're guided on, and it's really lovely. I've been offering that now free for over 10 years. so yeah. So, there are two opportunities people can come for free and just you know just feel into it and see if see if something resonates. I love that. I remember being part of secret Sunday back when I was a student. So, yeah, it was very beautiful. Well, Daniela, I thank you so much so much for being here for all the ways that you're here on Earth kind of all the offering that you that you give and I think so much of that again just comes back to what you were talking about that energy that presence that we are and then the rest ripples out, right?

It really does. Thank you.